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Arne Vajhøj
2021-08-25 01:02:04 UTC
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Jan-Erik Söderholm
2021-08-25 10:16:43 UTC
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And the costs?
Arne Vajhøj
2021-08-25 13:19:47 UTC
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And the costs?
Doesn't say.

Hopefully low.

But nice to see.

Hopefully there will be a few colleges/universities that
will pick VMS when they want to show something that is not
Linux or Windows.

Arne
Bill Gunshannon
2021-08-25 13:26:28 UTC
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And the costs?
Doesn't say.
Hopefully low.
But nice to see.
Hopefully there will be a few colleges/universities that
will pick VMS when they want to show something that is not
Linux or Windows.
If they were going to do that zOS was a better bet. But even that
has become a near impossible sell at most Universities.

bill
Arne Vajhøj
2021-08-25 13:47:30 UTC
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https://forum.vmssoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=212
And the costs?
Doesn't say.
Hopefully low.
But nice to see.
Hopefully there will be a few colleges/universities that
will pick VMS when they want to show something that is not
Linux or Windows.
If they were going to do that zOS was a better bet.  But even that
has become a near impossible sell at most Universities.
With VMS x86-64 then VMS HW will be there.

Arne
Simon Clubley
2021-08-25 17:31:50 UTC
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Post by Arne Vajhøj
https://forum.vmssoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=212
And the costs?
Doesn't say.
Hopefully low.
But nice to see.
Hopefully there will be a few colleges/universities that
will pick VMS when they want to show something that is not
Linux or Windows.
If they were going to do that zOS was a better bet. But even that
has become a near impossible sell at most Universities.
These days, if someone wants to play with z/OS for non-commercial use,
all they need to do is to sign up for the Master the Mainframe program
(and it's free).

If VSI want VMS to see use in a university teaching environment in 2021,
they had better have very low cost or zero pricing (and without any stupid
licence terms).

There are many free and low-cost alternatives to present to students these
days if the lecturers want to show the students something different when
it comes to operating systems.

Simon.
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Bill Gunshannon
2021-08-25 20:52:37 UTC
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Post by Arne Vajhøj
https://forum.vmssoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=212
And the costs?
Doesn't say.
Hopefully low.
But nice to see.
Hopefully there will be a few colleges/universities that
will pick VMS when they want to show something that is not
Linux or Windows.
If they were going to do that zOS was a better bet. But even that
has become a near impossible sell at most Universities.
These days, if someone wants to play with z/OS for non-commercial use,
all they need to do is to sign up for the Master the Mainframe program
(and it's free).
If VSI want VMS to see use in a university teaching environment in 2021,
they had better have very low cost or zero pricing (and without any stupid
licence terms).
There are many free and low-cost alternatives to present to students these
days if the lecturers want to show the students something different when
it comes to operating systems.
Sadly, they don't. And they have no incentive to do it either.
Just more work for the same pay.

bill

Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
2021-08-25 14:52:08 UTC
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And the costs?
Doesn't say.
Hopefully low.
But nice to see.
Hopefully there will be a few colleges/universities that
will pick VMS when they want to show something that is not
Linux or Windows.
Low costs are important, but aren't enough. Back in the day, DECCampus
was ubiquitous, VMS was at many or most universities, and there were
many graduates with VMS skills. Then people started moving to
Linux---not really because of license costs, which weren't that high
with DECCampus, but because of a general geeky trend that Linus is cool.
That's what it boils down to. A few years later, at a conference I saw
a map of universities which were DECcampus customers: there were
several, but whereas in the past many or most students had a VMS
account, by that time it was mostly just an old DECUS guy who made use
of DECCampus for his "own" VMS system.
Bill Gunshannon
2021-08-25 13:24:40 UTC
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Arne
And the costs?
Be nice to know the actual agreement, too. The last one offered
byy HP was totally unacceptable in an academic environment becuase
they obviously had no understanding of the customer.

bill
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