Post by John H. Reinhardt Post by Arne Vajhøj
I see a lot of posts about problems or potential problems.
But I think we should look at the big picture.
HPE killed the hobbyist program with very short notice.
VSI announced and started the new Community License Program pretty quickly.
Considering how many very important tasks VSI has at the moment,
then I consider that pretty impressive.
So VSI has proven their good will.
Maybe the license mix is not optimal.
But based on the past then I would expect VSI to listen to
suggestions when they do an evaluation in 1 or 3 or 6 months.
(excluding VAX licenses which seems to be a non-starter)
I hope my post today doesn't sound like whining, but I suppose it can be
seen that way. I fully expect the VSI Community License program to
evolve the way HP's Hobbyist program did over the years. My purpose was
to document what was available. I know VSI did this in somewhat of a
hurry, I think they expected up to another year before needing to roll
this out. I'm hoping that the lack of compiler PAKs on the Integrity
side is just an "oh, crap, we forgot those" thing since the install
files are in the downloads. Perhaps the OpenVMS-BOE includes them, I
have not worked with the VSI side before. I know HP's BOE did not.
If nobody says they want Integrity licenses for Clustering and Disk
Shadowing, then VSI will never know that we want it. I assume a good
percentage of "serious" hobbyist will want them. After all, Clustering
and even HBVS are two of the main pillars of what VAX/VMS - VMS -
OpenVMS are all about. Looking at the VSI SPD for OpenVMS it seems that
the HAOE gets you clustering, disk shadowing and RMS Journaling. All of
these were available previously so hopefully whatever reason it was
behind not including it can be reversed.
I also know that talking about it here isn't the best channel in getting
back to VSI. True many VSI people frequent here but I imagine emails to
Just some thoughts.
If one feels that something is missing, definitely ask VSI. They don't
know unless you ask/tell them.
Regardless, my opinion is that VMS strengths should be shoved in front
of as many faces as possible.
Itanics seem a dime a dozen anymore, regardless, it's not something I'd
consider for a hobbyist / CL set-up. But so what, it's perfectly Ok for
others to want to do so.
I seem to recall a mention of "testing". If that is testing for a
commercial purpose, then a developer license would be appropriate, not a
I'm a bit confused with the compiler licenses. I have Alpha licenses
from DEC, and they are still on the Alpha with the VSI V8.4-2L1 release.
Perhaps the DEC product and license is still good for a non-VMS
product on a VSI release. Not sure how DEC Basic, C, and such is
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