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Wordle on VMS ?
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Simon Clubley
2022-06-07 17:39:02 UTC
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Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?

No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
in Pascal for Multics:

https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/

Simon.

PS: Didn't realise Multics was open source now. That's another one to
add to the outstanding list. :-)
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Bill Gunshannon
2022-06-07 17:43:26 UTC
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Post by Simon Clubley
Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
Post by Simon Clubley
Simon.
PS: Didn't realise Multics was open source now. That's another one to
add to the outstanding list. :-)
I thought Multics was released to the Open Source world more than
a decade (or two or three) ago.
Andy Burns
2022-06-07 17:47:05 UTC
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
It's similar to the Mastermind board game, but with letters instead of colours

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastermind_(board_game)>
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2022-06-07 18:50:05 UTC
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Simon Clubley
Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some kind of puzzle
with green and gray and yellow squares.
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Dave Froble
2022-06-07 20:06:40 UTC
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Simon Clubley
Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some kind of puzzle
with green and gray and yellow squares.
So then, if it's so stupid, how do you know about it?

:-) :-) :-)

Dave, who has no idea what the thing is ...
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2022-06-08 01:29:00 UTC
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Post by Dave Froble
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Simon Clubley
Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some kind of puzzle
with green and gray and yellow squares.
So then, if it's so stupid, how do you know about it?
That dumb shit shows up in my feed every morning. All I really care about is
who flew what over the weekend, and to what altitude and mach number. All of
the rest is ignorant fluff. All I know is it's some 5x5 puzzle. The numbers
people post for scores make no sense and, that, like Depp and Herd, who gives
a rats arse?
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Richard Maher
2022-06-08 02:19:23 UTC
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Post by Dave Froble
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Simon Clubley
Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put
the idea into your heads after seeing that someone has
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some
kind of puzzle with green and gray and yellow squares.
So then, if it's so stupid, how do you know about it?
That dumb shit shows up in my feed every morning. All I really care
about is who flew what over the weekend, and to what altitude and
mach number. All of the rest is ignorant fluff. All I know is it's
some 5x5 puzzle. The numbers people post for scores make no sense
and, that, like Depp and Herd, who gives a rats arse?
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!

Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
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2022-06-08 11:26:12 UTC
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Post by Richard Maher
Post by V***@SendSpamHere.ORG
Post by Dave Froble
Post by V***@SendSpamHere.ORG
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Simon Clubley
Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put
the idea into your heads after seeing that someone has
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some
kind of puzzle with green and gray and yellow squares.
So then, if it's so stupid, how do you know about it?
That dumb shit shows up in my feed every morning. All I really care
about is who flew what over the weekend, and to what altitude and
mach number. All of the rest is ignorant fluff. All I know is it's
some 5x5 puzzle. The numbers people post for scores make no sense
and, that, like Depp and Herd, who gives a rats arse?
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
-^^^^^^^^^^

I had to google that one. Another couple of Follywood inbreds about whom
I couldn't give a rat's arse. I don't drink wine (bleachk, grapes) but I
did enjoy a fine Icarus Putin Huylo recently. ;)
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Simon Clubley
2022-06-08 12:06:44 UTC
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Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
coming across as on the world stage ? :-(

Simon.
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Dave Froble
2022-06-08 12:12:03 UTC
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Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
Simon.
If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's got the
right idea. Who would you prefer? Neville Chamberlain?

Some suggested reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
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Simon Clubley
2022-06-08 12:18:21 UTC
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Post by Dave Froble
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
Simon.
If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's got the
right idea. Who would you prefer? Neville Chamberlain?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
I'm not talking about Ukraine - that's the only thing he's got right
recently. I'm talking about everything else. The MPs no-confidence
rebellion was larger than I expected however which was a nice surprise.

Simon.
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Arne Vajhøj
2022-06-08 12:24:15 UTC
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Post by Dave Froble
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's
got the right idea.  Who would you prefer?  Neville Chamberlain?
It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864

Arne
Bill Gunshannon
2022-06-08 16:50:14 UTC
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Post by Arne Vajhøj
Post by Dave Froble
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think
he's got the right idea.  Who would you prefer?  Neville Chamberlain?
It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
that wasn't the norm?

bill
John Dallman
2022-06-08 17:56:00 UTC
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Arne Vajhøj
It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
that wasn't the norm?
Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been quite
transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a different law
for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying about his lack of
knowledge that various gatherings were parties rather than meetings.

A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to face
constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or child's
funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having parties with no
social distancing.

Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a continual
liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions about how many
children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't
know. However, his MPs and voters are now having to face up to what
they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't like the way it makes
them look. They're also aware that he's likely to loose them the next
election, which was what caused the recent vote of confidence.

John
Bill Gunshannon
2022-06-08 18:28:45 UTC
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Arne Vajhøj
It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
that wasn't the norm?
Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been quite
transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a different law
for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying about his lack of
knowledge that various gatherings were parties rather than meetings.
I repeat myself. Of the major countries that people usually care about,
who was different?
Post by John Dallman
A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to face
constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or child's
funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having parties with no
social distancing.
And Nancy Pelosi was having private sessions at a hairdresser.
Cuomo was hosting parties at the Governor's mansion.
de Blasio (former mayor of NYC) was travelling to expensive restaurants
in NJ for large dinners with his friends (maskless) while NYC was on
lockdown.
Post by John Dallman
Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a continual
liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions about how many
children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't
know. However, his MPs and voters are now having to face up to what
they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't like the way it makes
them look. They're also aware that he's likely to loose them the next
election, which was what caused the recent vote of confidence.
How do you tell when a politician is lying?

bill
Dave Froble
2022-06-08 19:20:24 UTC
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by John Dallman
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Arne Vajhøj
It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
that wasn't the norm?
Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been quite
transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a different law
for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying about his lack of
knowledge that various gatherings were parties rather than meetings.
I repeat myself. Of the major countries that people usually care about,
who was different?
Post by John Dallman
A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to face
constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or child's
funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having parties with no
social distancing.
And Nancy Pelosi was having private sessions at a hairdresser.
Cuomo was hosting parties at the Governor's mansion.
de Blasio (former mayor of NYC) was travelling to expensive restaurants
in NJ for large dinners with his friends (maskless) while NYC was on
lockdown.
Post by John Dallman
Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a continual
liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions about how many
children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't
know. However, his MPs and voters are now having to face up to what
they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't like the way it makes
them look. They're also aware that he's likely to loose them the next
election, which was what caused the recent vote of confidence.
How do you tell when a politician is lying?
bill
His lips are moving ????
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Dave Froble
2022-06-08 19:18:56 UTC
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Post by John Dallman
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Arne Vajhøj
It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
that wasn't the norm?
Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been quite
transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a different law
for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying about his lack of
knowledge that various gatherings were parties rather than meetings.
A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to face
constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or child's
funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having parties with no
social distancing.
Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a continual
liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions about how many
children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't
know. However, his MPs and voters are now having to face up to what
they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't like the way it makes
them look. They're also aware that he's likely to loose them the next
election, which was what caused the recent vote of confidence.
John
General attitude:

I'd rather have an asshole who does right for the country than an angel that
totally screws up the country.

Note: Trump is neither, he's an asshole that screws up the country, and a
subversive traitor who wanted to take away our form of government.
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Richard Maher
2022-06-09 00:49:53 UTC
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Post by Dave Froble
Post by John Dallman
Post by Arne Vajhøj
It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut
down the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where that
wasn't the norm?
Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been
quite transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a
different law for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying
about his lack of knowledge that various gatherings were parties
rather than meetings.
A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to
face constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or
child's funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having
parties with no social distancing.
Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a
continual liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions
about how many children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion
is that he doesn't know. However, his MPs and voters are now having
to face up to what they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't
like the way it makes them look. They're also aware that he's
likely to loose them the next election, which was what caused the
recent vote of confidence.
John
I'd rather have an asshole who does right for the country than an
angel that totally screws up the country.
No, no, NO! Just gone an wrecked it :-(

Heard a funny story about two Americans in Tasmania the other day who
wanted a beer on tap (Vom Fass) but couldn't work out Draught on the
menu. I think they ended up getting G and Ts :-)
Post by Dave Froble
Note: Trump is neither, he's an asshole that screws up the country,
and a subversive traitor who wanted to take away our form of
government.
Simon Clubley
2022-06-08 17:37:07 UTC
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Post by Arne Vajhøj
Post by Dave Froble
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's
got the right idea.  Who would you prefer?  Neville Chamberlain?
It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
Yes, and also things like signing international agreements while knowing
that he would not be honouring the agreement he just signed:

https://www.bbc.com/news/58001530

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/16/boris-johnson-brexit-mess-northern-ireland-dup

Simon.
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Richard Maher
2022-06-09 00:53:44 UTC
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Post by Dave Froble
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
Simon.
If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's
got the right idea.  Who would you prefer?  Neville Chamberlain?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
Also signing a defense pact with Finland and Sweden before they joined
NATO is very ballsy. Not sure if his government had a mandate for that
but impressive none the less.
Galen
2022-06-10 00:20:51 UTC
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Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Also, I don’t think any self-respecting equine wold tolerate being owned
by a rat.
Richard Maher
2022-06-10 02:21:37 UTC
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Post by Galen
Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Also, I don’t think any self-respecting equine wold tolerate being owned
by a rat.
:-)
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2022-06-10 11:43:47 UTC
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Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Also, I don't think any self-respecting equine wold tolerate being owned
by a rat.
Who mentioned horses?
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Bob Eager
2022-06-10 12:49:17 UTC
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Post by Richard Maher
Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
Also, I don't think any self-respecting equine wold tolerate being owned
by a rat.
Who mentioned horses?
The ass is a hoofed mammal in the family Equidae. So it's an equine.
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Rich Alderson
2022-06-07 19:36:46 UTC
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Simon Clubley
Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
[ snip ]
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Simon Clubley
PS: Didn't realise Multics was open source now. That's another one to
add to the outstanding list. :-)
I thought Multics was released to the Open Source world more than
a decade (or two or three) ago.
Multics was only released to the Open Source world within the last decade,
thanks to the efforts of some of my friends. Bull and MIT had to hash out the
copyrights before that could happen.
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Simon Clubley
2022-06-08 12:09:58 UTC
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Post by Rich Alderson
Multics was only released to the Open Source world within the last decade,
thanks to the efforts of some of my friends. Bull and MIT had to hash out the
copyrights before that could happen.
When you next see them, please thank them for me. Seriously.

It's now been added to my (way too long :-)) list of things for me
to look at some time in the future.

Simon.
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Arne Vajhøj
2022-06-08 00:27:54 UTC
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Post by Simon Clubley
Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
The code linked in the article build on VMS with 3 tiny changes:

63 fconnect(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt');
->
63 open(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt', old);

75 fclose(inwords);
->
75 close(inwords);

108 chosenword := wordlist[trunc(clock) mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
->
108 chosenword := wordlist[clock mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];

Arne
Supratim Sanyal
2022-06-08 03:27:00 UTC
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   63     fconnect(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt');
->
   63     open(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt', old);
   75     fclose(inwords);
->
   75     close(inwords);
  108     chosenword := wordlist[trunc(clock) mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
->
  108     chosenword := wordlist[clock mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
Arne
Just saw this, and exactly so, though I used "readonly" instead of
"old". It also compiles on linux with
63c63
< fconnect(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt');
---
assign(inwords, 'words.txt');
75c75
< fclose(inwords);
---
close(inwords);
108c108,110
< chosenword := wordlist[trunc(clock) mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
---
//chosenword := wordlist[trunc(clock) mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
randomize;
chosenword := wordlist[ random(9223372036854775807) mod
MAX_WORD_INDEX];

anyway, quick link for anyone wanting to avoid the edit/compile cycle -
https://bit.ly/wordle-vms
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