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Jilly
2024-12-11 16:04:33 UTC
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Folks,

On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire. I started this
journey in 1979, hired by Digital's Upgrade Training Program in CXO to learn
electronics and started working on the RM02/03 manufacturing line. From there
I went to NYC Field Service and in 1989 I met John Hockett at a CSC Road Show
interview. In May I was working on the VMS Internals and Performance team in
CX03, hugely lucky in getting Mark Morris as a cube mate. John & Mark were
primarily responsible for my progression in VMS Support. In 1992 I started
WFH and have been at home in Waverly, NY since 1994. I have worked with a
number of highly talented people in the VMS ecosystem and am very grateful for
all the collaborations I received over the years.

My plans are to travel for family events, play more golf, do more racing
travel but most of all, play more poker.

I wish VSI all the best for the future of VMS.

Have a safe & happy holiday.

Jilly
Simon Clubley
2024-12-12 13:24:30 UTC
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Folks,
On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire. I started this
journey in 1979, hired by Digital's Upgrade Training Program in CXO to learn
electronics and started working on the RM02/03 manufacturing line. From there
I went to NYC Field Service and in 1989 I met John Hockett at a CSC Road Show
interview. In May I was working on the VMS Internals and Performance team in
CX03, hugely lucky in getting Mark Morris as a cube mate. John & Mark were
primarily responsible for my progression in VMS Support. In 1992 I started
WFH and have been at home in Waverly, NY since 1994. I have worked with a
number of highly talented people in the VMS ecosystem and am very grateful for
all the collaborations I received over the years.
My plans are to travel for family events, play more golf, do more racing
travel but most of all, play more poker.
I wish VSI all the best for the future of VMS.
Have a safe & happy holiday.
Congratulations on your retirement and best wishes for your future.

It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.

Simon.

PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
--
Simon Clubley, ***@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.
Arne Vajhøj
2024-12-12 15:13:15 UTC
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It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.
A lot of well known names from c.o.v/I-V are no longer seen.

Mark Berryman, Hunter Goatley, Brian Schenkenberg, David Jones and
Robert Gezelter still drop by occasionally.

David Cathey and Nick de Smith are seen elsewhere.

Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
for many years. Probably many of them have retired.

Arne
John H. Reinhardt
2024-12-13 04:13:51 UTC
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Post by Simon Clubley
It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.
A lot of well known names from c.o.v/I-V are no longer seen.
Mark Berryman, Hunter Goatley, Brian Schenkenberg, David Jones and
Robert Gezelter still drop by occasionally.
David Cathey and Nick de Smith are seen elsewhere.
Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
for many years. Probably many of them have retired.
Arne
Terry Kennedy is now Terri Kennedy and can be seen quite often on the VCF DEC Forum and on Oscar Vermeulen's PiDP-11 and PiDP-10 Google groups. I had contact with Glenn Everhart back in May 2021 when I got a copy of his DECUS files but I have not spoken with him since.
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John H. Reinhardt
David Goodwin
2024-12-13 23:01:09 UTC
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Post by Arne Vajhøj
Post by Simon Clubley
It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.
A lot of well known names from c.o.v/I-V are no longer seen.
Mark Berryman, Hunter Goatley, Brian Schenkenberg, David Jones and
Robert Gezelter still drop by occasionally.
David Cathey and Nick de Smith are seen elsewhere.
Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
for many years. Probably many of them have retired.
Arne
Terry Kennedy is now Terri Kennedy and can be seen quite often on the VCF DEC Forum and on Oscar Vermeulen's PiDP-11 and PiDP-10 Google groups. I had contact with Glenn Everhart back in May 2021 when I got a copy of his DECUS files but I have not spoken with him since.
Based on their post on the VCF forum it appears the end of the
hobbyist/community license program may have impacted their ongoing use
of OpenVMS
Subcommandante XDelta
2024-12-14 13:09:55 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:01:09 +1300, David Goodwin
Post by David Goodwin
Post by John H. Reinhardt
Post by Arne Vajhøj
Post by Simon Clubley
It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.
A lot of well known names from c.o.v/I-V are no longer seen.
Mark Berryman, Hunter Goatley, Brian Schenkenberg, David Jones and
Robert Gezelter still drop by occasionally.
David Cathey and Nick de Smith are seen elsewhere.
Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
for many years. Probably many of them have retired.
Arne
Terry Kennedy is now Terri Kennedy and can be seen quite often on the VCF DEC Forum and on Oscar Vermeulen's PiDP-11 and PiDP-10 Google groups. I had contact with Glenn Everhart back in May 2021 when I got a copy of his DECUS files but I have not spoken with him since.
Based on their post on the VCF forum it appears the end of the
hobbyist/community license program may have impacted their ongoing use
of OpenVMS
:-(

VAX/VMS and AXP/VMS hobbyists and O.G. old-timers, can continue unto
the end of time.

It would be sagacious and generally beneficial, if VSI changed their
spots, mended their ways, resaw the light, and reimplemented a
classical VSI/VMS hobbyist program, for the maintenance and
development of VMS mindshare - particularly in the under 60's cohort!
Hunter Goatley
2024-12-14 18:04:06 UTC
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Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
for many years. Probably many of them have retired.
Sadly, Jamie and Jerry travelled Beyond the Rim years ago.

Hunter
Subcommandante XDelta
2024-12-14 13:10:54 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Jilly
Folks,
On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire. I started this
journey in 1979, hired by Digital's Upgrade Training Program in CXO to learn
electronics and started working on the RM02/03 manufacturing line. From there
I went to NYC Field Service and in 1989 I met John Hockett at a CSC Road Show
interview. In May I was working on the VMS Internals and Performance team in
CX03, hugely lucky in getting Mark Morris as a cube mate. John & Mark were
primarily responsible for my progression in VMS Support. In 1992 I started
WFH and have been at home in Waverly, NY since 1994. I have worked with a
number of highly talented people in the VMS ecosystem and am very grateful for
all the collaborations I received over the years.
My plans are to travel for family events, play more golf, do more racing
travel but most of all, play more poker.
I wish VSI all the best for the future of VMS.
Have a safe & happy holiday.
Congratulations on your retirement and best wishes for your future.
It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.
Simon.
PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)
Simon Clubley
2024-12-16 13:24:37 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)
$ set response/mode=good_natured

Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
called Denmark. :-)

Simon.
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Simon Clubley, ***@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.
Chris Townley
2024-12-16 13:41:08 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)
$ set response/mode=good_natured
Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
called Denmark. :-)
Simon.
A Great Dane perhaps?
--
Chris
Subcommandante XDelta
2024-12-17 13:11:28 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Subcommandante XDelta
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)
$ set response/mode=good_natured
Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
called Denmark. :-)
Simon.
Those Danes get sround. :-)

https://englandsnortheast.co.uk/jorvik-viking-northumbria/
Arne Vajhøj
2024-12-17 19:07:08 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Subcommandante XDelta
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)
$ set response/mode=good_natured
Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
called Denmark. :-)
Those Danes get sround. :-)
The vikings traveled far:

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https://englandsnortheast.co.uk/jorvik-viking-northumbria/
It was even bigger under Cnut the Great 1028-1035:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Empire#/media/File:Cnut_lands.svg

Arne
bill
2024-12-17 21:02:42 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Subcommandante XDelta
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)
$ set response/mode=good_natured
Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
called Denmark. :-)
Those Danes get sround. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings#/media/File:Vikings-Voyages.png
Post by Subcommandante XDelta
https://englandsnortheast.co.uk/jorvik-viking-northumbria/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Empire#/media/File:Cnut_lands.svg
Well, they made it at least as far as what is now Minnesota on North
America. That's 1400 miles overland.

The biggest thing I have gotten out of this thread is how close I live
to Jilly and we have never met. I go, frequently to a Casino just up
the road from where he lives. They have really good food. :-)

bill
Dan Cross
2024-12-17 22:49:39 UTC
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Well, they made it at least as far as what is now Minnesota on North
America. That's 1400 miles overland.
Those were not vikings. Those were scandinavian immigrants that
came to North America long after the end of the Viking Age,
though granted many of them were probably descended from
vikings.

- Dan C.
Arne Vajhøj
2024-12-18 00:20:11 UTC
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Post by Arne Vajhøj
Post by Subcommandante XDelta
On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Subcommandante XDelta
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)
$ set response/mode=good_natured
Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
called Denmark. :-)
Those Danes get sround. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings#/media/File:Vikings-Voyages.png
Well, they made it at least as far as what is now Minnesota on North
America.  That's 1400 miles overland.
The scientific consensus is that the Kensington Runestone is a
forgery and that the vikings did not get to Minnesota.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone

But it is a good story. And I suppose people in Minnesota
like the story. And besides "When the legend becomes fact,
print the legend". :-)

Arne
Arne Vajhøj
2024-12-18 00:26:29 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
Post by Subcommandante XDelta
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
Post by Simon Clubley
PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
because there's no point. :-)
Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)
$ set response/mode=good_natured
Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
called Denmark. :-)
Those Danes get sround. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings#/media/File:Vikings-Voyages.png
Well, they made it at least as far as what is now Minnesota on North
America.  That's 1400 miles overland.
The scientific consensus is that the Kensington Runestone is a
forgery and that the vikings did not get to Minnesota.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone
But it is a good story. And I suppose people in Minnesota
like the story. And besides "When the legend becomes fact,
print the legend". :-)
And:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/erOAAq0b79U/m/7z7ZkgZJAAAJ

Arne

Tom Wade
2024-12-14 14:21:15 UTC
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Hi Jilly,
Post by Jilly
On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire.
Best wishes on your retirement, and may all your page faults be soft !
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Tom Wade
tom dot wade at tomwade dot eu
Jim Duff
2024-12-17 22:24:37 UTC
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Folks,
On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire. I started this
journey in 1979, hired by Digital's Upgrade Training Program in CXO to learn
electronics and started working on the RM02/03 manufacturing line. From there
I went to NYC Field Service and in 1989 I met John Hockett at a CSC Road Show
interview. In May I was working on the VMS Internals and Performance team in
CX03, hugely lucky in getting Mark Morris as a cube mate. John & Mark were
primarily responsible for my progression in VMS Support. In 1992 I started
WFH and have been at home in Waverly, NY since 1994. I have worked with a
number of highly talented people in the VMS ecosystem and am very grateful for
all the collaborations I received over the years.
My plans are to travel for family events, play more golf, do more racing
travel but most of all, play more poker.
I wish VSI all the best for the future of VMS.
Have a safe & happy holiday.
Jilly
Congratulations on your retirement!

If I recall, the last bug you and I uncovered was this little beauty...

https://www.eight-cubed.com/blog/archives/001285.html
https://www.eight-cubed.com/blog/archives/001289.html

Which turned out to be an issue with the port of an MACRO-32 module to C
back in the VAX to Alpha port. If I remember correctly, the problem was
the port had failed to include a memory barrier in the C code which was
implied in the MACRO-32, and the bug hid for over 30 years until an IA64
doing *lots* of directory renames on the same disk in parallel uncovered it.

Fun times :)
Jim
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