VAX VMS 4.7 distribution available for download

[Andy Hoffman]

All,

The VMS 4.7 distribution is now available for download at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipk28nb82dw0w1n/VAXVMS047A%20copy.zip?dl=0

It's a combined 4.6 and 4.7 release as there doesn't appear to have been a standalone 4.7 installation - you need to install 4.6 and upgrade to 4.7.

Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart archives called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack, sockets and mail exchange software, but also references JNET which may be of interest to some. I have not tried installing or configuring this as it's outside my scope for gathering DEC software.

There are a few dependencies which I haven't be able to find yet, so if anyone knows of where I could source the following products I would be extremely grateful if you could let me know:

LSE & FMS for VMS 4.x
CDD version VT4.0-0

Best regards,

Andy Hoffman.

[Fabio Bizzi]

Post by Andy Hoffman
All,
The VMS 4.7 distribution is now available for download at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipk28nb82dw0w1n/VAXVMS047A%20copy.zip?dl=0

GREAT!!!! :)

Many thanks!

Ciao.

Fabio.

[Hans Vlems]

Andy
In the testvax.ini file the XU device is set up with an AA-00-04 address. Which ties the ini file to a specific DECnet address. I think it is more flexible to put a hardware address in there (e.g. 08-00-2B-86-50-01)
Hans

[Andy Hoffman]

Post by Hans Vlems
Andy
In the testvax.ini file the XU device is set up with an AA-00-04 address. Which ties the ini file to a specific DECnet address. I think it is more flexible to put a hardware address in there (e.g. 08-00-2B-86-50-01)
Hans

Thanks for the nudge Hans - you are correct and I will change this for future releases.

Best regards,

Andy

[John E. Malmberg]

Post by Andy Hoffman
All,

<snip>

Post by Andy Hoffman
Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart
archives called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack,
sockets and mail exchange software, but also references JNET which
may be of interest to some. I have not tried installing or
configuring this as it's outside my scope for gathering DEC
software.

CMU-IP is an open-source TCP/IP implementation for VAX/VMS up until
VAX/VMS version 5.5-x.

It is not fully available for later versions of OpenVMS that because
some sources for the last set of update patches never got released to
the public by the maintainer before the web-site disappeared.

For VAX/VMS 5.5-4 on one of the DECUS or Freeware distributions is a
shared image that allows the DECRTL to use CMU-IP instead of one of the
other TCP/IP stacks with out having to do special linking.

I do not know if there was a DEC TCP/IP product for that version of VMS,
or what third party products were available, so that may be your best
chance of getting your old VAX reachable by TCP/IP.

Full sources to GCC/VAX also did not make it onto any DECUS archive that
I have found. The GCC.EXE binary on the DECUS tapes can not be built
from the sources supplied.

Regards,
-John

[Andy Hoffman]

Post by John E. Malmberg

Post by Andy Hoffman
All,

<snip>

Post by Andy Hoffman
Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart
archives called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack,
sockets and mail exchange software, but also references JNET which
may be of interest to some. I have not tried installing or
configuring this as it's outside my scope for gathering DEC
software.

CMU-IP is an open-source TCP/IP implementation for VAX/VMS up until
VAX/VMS version 5.5-x.
It is not fully available for later versions of OpenVMS that because
some sources for the last set of update patches never got released to
the public by the maintainer before the web-site disappeared.
For VAX/VMS 5.5-4 on one of the DECUS or Freeware distributions is a
shared image that allows the DECRTL to use CMU-IP instead of one of the
other TCP/IP stacks with out having to do special linking.
I do not know if there was a DEC TCP/IP product for that version of VMS,
or what third party products were available, so that may be your best
chance of getting your old VAX reachable by TCP/IP.
Full sources to GCC/VAX also did not make it onto any DECUS archive that
I have found. The GCC.EXE binary on the DECUS tapes can not be built
from the sources supplied.
Regards,
-John

Thanks John. We were pretty much a DECnet (thin wire) and serial line interface shop in the days before the Internet. I don't think I looked at TCPIP until the mid 90's when UCX/TCPIP/Multinet/Wollongong were well established. Live and learn!

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by Andy Hoffman
Thanks John. We were pretty much a DECnet (thin wire) and serial line interface shop in the days before the Internet. I don't think I looked at TCPIP until the mid 90's when UCX/TCPIP/Multinet/Wollongong were well established. Live and learn!

I could not get CMU/Tek working reliably when we upgraded to VMS 5.5 and went
to Multinet. It was in all ways wonderful.
--scott

[Dr.SysMan]

Post by Andy Hoffman
All,
The VMS 4.7 distribution is now available for download at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipk28nb82dw0w1n/VAXVMS047A%20copy.zip?dl=0
It's a combined 4.6 and 4.7 release as there doesn't appear to have been a standalone 4.7 installation - you need to install 4.6 and upgrade to 4.7.
Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart archives called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack, sockets and mail exchange software, but also references JNET which may be of interest to some. I have not tried installing or configuring this as it's outside my scope for gathering DEC software.
LSE & FMS for VMS 4.x
CDD version VT4.0-0
Best regards,
Andy Hoffman.

Torrent (rutracker.org for example, he-he) is more effective way to keep so brilliant stuff available for years.

[Supratim Sanyal]

Post by Andy Hoffman
All,
The VMS 4.7 distribution is now available for download at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipk28nb82dw0w1n/VAXVMS047A%20copy.zip?dl=0
It's a combined 4.6 and 4.7 release as there doesn't appear to have been a standalone 4.7 installation - you need to install 4.6 and upgrade to 4.7.
Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart archives called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack, sockets and mail exchange software, but also references JNET which may be of interest to some. I have not tried installing or configuring this as it's outside my scope for gathering DEC software.
LSE & FMS for VMS 4.x
CDD version VT4.0-0
Best regards,
Andy Hoffman.

Thank you; up and running here. Hard to go wrong with your very helpful
included session log .txt files.

[Andy Hoffman]

Post by Supratim Sanyal

Post by Andy Hoffman
All,
The VMS 4.7 distribution is now available for download at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipk28nb82dw0w1n/VAXVMS047A%20copy.zip?dl=0
It's a combined 4.6 and 4.7 release as there doesn't appear to have been a standalone 4.7 installation - you need to install 4.6 and upgrade to 4.7.
Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart archives called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack, sockets and mail exchange software, but also references JNET which may be of interest to some. I have not tried installing or configuring this as it's outside my scope for gathering DEC software.
LSE & FMS for VMS 4.x
CDD version VT4.0-0
Best regards,
Andy Hoffman.

Thank you; up and running here. Hard to go wrong with your very helpful
included session log .txt files.

Thanks Supratim. I’ve found a wealth of information on your website as well for which I’m grateful!

I think there’s just 4.2 and 4.4 left in the series I want to do, and then on to a few V5 installations. I’m leaving
V3,2,1 until later because I think they will be the most difficult.

Best regards,
Andy Hoffman.

[Wilm Boerhout]

Andy Hoffman schreef op 24-2-2019 om 11:22:
[ snip]

Post by Andy Hoffman
I think there’s just 4.2 and 4.4 left in the series I want to do, and then on to a few V5 installations. I’m leaving
V3,2,1 until later because I think they will be the most difficult.

Thanks for the V4 stuff. My first job at Digital in 1985 was RSTS/E
SYSGENs and later, VMS V3.x to V4 upgrades. Those were the days...

I have VMS V3.0 and V1.0 up and running on simh VAX-11/780. No layered
products though (Fortran compiler?)

DM if you need assistance.

And I have a (real) VAXmate, but am still looking for the network boot
software (PCSA client and server stuff)

/Wilm

[Dave Froble]

Post by Wilm Boerhout
[ snip]

Post by Andy Hoffman
I think there’s just 4.2 and 4.4 left in the series I want to do, and
then on to a few V5 installations. I’m leaving
V3,2,1 until later because I think they will be the most difficult.

Thanks for the V4 stuff. My first job at Digital in 1985 was RSTS/E
SYSGENs and later, VMS V3.x to V4 upgrades. Those were the days...
I have VMS V3.0 and V1.0 up and running on simh VAX-11/780. No layered
products though (Fortran compiler?)

Uh, were there any layered products for V1.0?

:-)

[abrsvc]

Post by Dave Froble

Post by Wilm Boerhout
[ snip]

Post by Andy Hoffman
I think there’s just 4.2 and 4.4 left in the series I want to do, and
then on to a few V5 installations. I’m leaving
V3,2,1 until later because I think they will be the most difficult.

Thanks for the V4 stuff. My first job at Digital in 1985 was RSTS/E
SYSGENs and later, VMS V3.x to V4 upgrades. Those were the days...
I have VMS V3.0 and V1.0 up and running on simh VAX-11/780. No layered
products though (Fortran compiler?)

Uh, were there any layered products for V1.0?
:-)
--
David Froble Tel: [phone]
DFE Ultralights, Inc.
170 Grimplin Road
Vanderbilt, PA 15486

FORTRAN IV at least. I don't recall at the moment what else was publicly available.

Dan

[Timothy Stark]

Yeah. During my college life, I got computer programming 101 course for computer science majors. I learned how to write Pascal programs.
Professor gave us VAX user accounts for writing Pascal programs. My first system was VMS v3.6 on VAX-11/780 (GALLUA) which have short file names (9.3 characters).

A year later, they shut system down for major upgrades. They introduced new VAX cluster systems that allow us to logging into any system. They had 4 VAX systems - two VAX-11/780s, VAX-11/750 and VAX 8600 systems (GALLUA - GALLUD). When I logged into VAX 8600 (GALLUD) and noticed that system ran faster than others.

With older terminal mux, we only have 2400 baud lines until new DECservers were introduced (now supports 9600 baud lines).

Also they introduced JNet software for BITNET networks. I often use JNet for communications...

There is no TCP/IP stack available for old VMS system until v5.x so that they used only JNET for communication in 1980s and early 1990s.

I was looking for older JNet v1.x and v2.x for VMS v4.x system but can't find them so far. My later JNet v3.x only supports VMS 5.5 or above.

Older JNet v1.x/v2.x has bitnet.doc for programming guide. Later v3.x, it was removed.

Does anyone still have older JNet v1.x and v2.x?

Tim

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Subject: Re: [Info-vax] VAX VMS 4.7 distribution available for download

Andy Hoffman schreef op 24-2-2019 om 11:22:
[ snip]

Post by Andy Hoffman
I think there’s just 4.2 and 4.4 left in the series I want to do, and
then on to a few V5 installations. I’m leaving
V3,2,1 until later because I think they will be the most difficult.

Thanks for the V4 stuff. My first job at Digital in 1985 was RSTS/E SYSGENs and later, VMS V3.x to V4 upgrades. Those were the days...

I have VMS V3.0 and V1.0 up and running on simh VAX-11/780. No layered products though (Fortran compiler?)

DM if you need assistance.

And I have a (real) VAXmate, but am still looking for the network boot software (PCSA client and server stuff)

/Wilm

[Andy Hoffman]

Post by Wilm Boerhout
[ snip]

Post by Andy Hoffman
I think there’s just 4.2 and 4.4 left in the series I want to do, and then on to a few V5 installations. I’m leaving
V3,2,1 until later because I think they will be the most difficult.

Thanks for the V4 stuff. My first job at Digital in 1985 was RSTS/E
SYSGENs and later, VMS V3.x to V4 upgrades. Those were the days...
I have VMS V3.0 and V1.0 up and running on simh VAX-11/780. No layered
products though (Fortran compiler?)
DM if you need assistance.
And I have a (real) VAXmate, but am still looking for the network boot
software (PCSA client and server stuff)
/Wilm

Thanks Wim - DM on the way.

Best regards,
Andy.

[Andy Hoffman]

Post by Supratim Sanyal

Post by Andy Hoffman
All,
The VMS 4.7 distribution is now available for download at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipk28nb82dw0w1n/VAXVMS047A%20copy.zip?dl=0
It's a combined 4.6 and 4.7 release as there doesn't appear to have been a standalone 4.7 installation - you need to install 4.6 and upgrade to 4.7.
Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart archives called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack, sockets and mail exchange software, but also references JNET which may be of interest to some. I have not tried installing or configuring this as it's outside my scope for gathering DEC software.
LSE & FMS for VMS 4.x
CDD version VT4.0-0
Best regards,
Andy Hoffman.

Thank you; up and running here. Hard to go wrong with your very helpful
included session log .txt files.

Hello Supratim,

I'm starting to lookat the VMS 3.x distributions and read your blog on installing CMU-Tek on VMS 4.7. Do you happen to know if CMU 6.3 runs on VMS systems below 4.0? If so, would you kindly point me at the location of the distribution for 6.3?

Best regards,

Andy Hoffman.

[Timothy Stark]

Thanks for providing a copy of VMS 4.7 package. It is now up and
running....

It do not have installation guide for how to install CMU-TEK-65. It just
said that it is not installed on products installation guide.
Does anyone have installation guide for installing CMU-TEK-65?

I tried to install JNET v3.5 on VMS 4.7 but it did not work. It crashed
during set up POSTMASTER account (DCL error).
Does anyone have older JNet (v1 and v2) that support VMS v4.x?

I tried to install RDB and Datatrieve but they crashed that installation
guide did not mention.

Why does VAX C v2.4 fail the IVP tests? Guide said that.

Thanks,
Tim

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All,

The VMS 4.7 distribution is now available for download at:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipk28nb82dw0w1n/VAXVMS047A%20copy.zip?dl=0

It's a combined 4.6 and 4.7 release as there doesn't appear to have been a
standalone 4.7 installation - you need to install 4.6 and upgrade to 4.7.

Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart archives
called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack, sockets and mail
exchange software, but also references JNET which may be of interest to
some. I have not tried installing or configuring this as it's outside my
scope for gathering DEC software.

There are a few dependencies which I haven't be able to find yet, so if
anyone knows of where I could source the following products I would be
extremely grateful if you could let me know:

LSE & FMS for VMS 4.x
CDD version VT4.0-0

Best regards,

Andy Hoffman.

["Supratim Sanyal]

Post by Timothy Stark
I tried to install JNET v3.5 on VMS 4.7 but it did not work. It crashed
during set up POSTMASTER account (DCL error).

Timothy - did you happen to try installing JNET v3.5 on OpenVMS/VAX 7.3?
Wondering if it works on 7.3.

Regards,
Supratim

[Timothy Stark]

Yes, I have JNet 3.5 to 3.7 for VAX and Alpha. JNet 3.7 needs license paks
but 3.5 and 3.6 do not requires paks. Yes it will work on OpenVMS 7.3.

Later I resolved a problem with installation on VMS 4.7. JNet 3.5 will
only work on least VMS v4.4. 3.5 and 3.6 will work on least VMS v5.0.

Tin

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 3:35 AM Supratim Sanyal <"supratim sanyal via

Post by "Supratim Sanyal

Post by Timothy Stark
I tried to install JNET v3.5 on VMS 4.7 but it did not work. It crashed
during set up POSTMASTER account (DCL error).

Timothy - did you happen to try installing JNET v3.5 on OpenVMS/VAX 7.3?
Wondering if it works on 7.3.
Regards,
Supratim
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["Supratim Sanyal]

Post by Timothy Stark
Yes, I have JNet 3.5 to 3.7 for VAX and Alpha. JNet 3.7 needs license paks
but 3.5 and 3.6 do not requires paks. Yes it will work on OpenVMS 7.3.
Later I resolved a problem with installation on VMS 4.7. JNet 3.5 will
only work on least VMS v4.4. 3.5 and 3.6 will work on least VMS v5.0.
Tin

Thanks Tim. Reaching out to you directly.

[r***@gmail.com]

Hey Andy,

I'm writing for a new website called LegacyOS. We cover activity in the VMS and HP legacy communities. What are you doing with the 4.7 release? What a testament to VMS. How long ago was 4.7 rolled out?

All the best,
Ron Seybold
LegacyOS.com

[Master Dan]

Post by Andy Hoffman
All,
The VMS 4.7 distribution is now available for download at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipk28nb82dw0w1n/VAXVMS047A%20copy.zip?dl=0
It's a combined 4.6 and 4.7 release as there doesn't appear to have been a standalone 4.7 installation - you need to install 4.6 and upgrade to 4.7.
Also new is a product which I found in the University of Stuttgart archives called CMU-TEK-65. It appears to have a TCPIP stack, sockets and mail exchange software, but also references JNET which may be of interest to some. I have not tried installing or configuring this as it's outside my scope for gathering DEC software.
LSE & FMS for VMS 4.x
CDD version VT4.0-0
Best regards,
Andy Hoffman.

Hey Andy

Care to share again the distribution? The Dropbox link is not valid anymore...

Thanks

Dan